Religion Critique, god is not most holy coz crime
potention He made, n about them who acquiesce in to tortured till dead on each
religion, n torturing.
to indonesian version
http://wrotefromrdjorharmikel.blogspot.co.id/2017/07/kritik-agama-tuhan-tidak-maha-suci-dan.html
The Universe is Constant not extended. Cant Back to Past Even
God, God not almighty http://wrotefromrdjorharmikel.blogspot.co.id/2017/08/the-universe-is-constant-not-extended.html
it's in English
Any 13rd add, B content paragraph 2, D.
NOTE and SOURCE ASMAUL HUSNA
any add,
1.about them who acquiesce in and brave to tortured
till dead on each religion... paragraph 1a and 1b
2. god did torturing and not most holy because crime potention he made... paragraph 2
3. unfair between moslem since birth, infidel since birth, and
muhammad... paragraph 5
4. seven layer of sky and other is very small than the whole universe
and can be just devil misleading after devil know some, but only on believe
thing...paragraph 12
5. if normal, self function working good, and life test never too hard
so no one of human will failed ... paragraph 19-21
6. god can finish that with better. human is not the leader on earth
...paragraph 22
7. torture meaning ... paragraph 24
8. god also has a share on crime and torturing because he is the creator
of all being include potention ... paragraph 27
9. if anyone wants to critique this
wrote by nil anything ... paragraph 28
C. DESCRIPTION LIST AGAIN AND VERSE
D. NOTE AND SOURCE ASMAUL HUSNA
A. INTRODUCTION
It is words in my mind that time, know right or
wrong, but I'm sure this is true. I think this could be to prevent crime by
religious motifs such as terrorism, and coercion because of religion. That's
because the concepts can I deny, and this shows that there is no religion which
all proved to be true all the verses (I know of). and do you not afraid to seed
hatred instilled religion, I do not mean hatred of evil, but hatred of
infidels? and claims of the unbelievers is despicable destructive of human dignity,
it is appropriate that we also look for the truth, much less connect with the
afterlife (if there is), it is not certain but I think worth searched. But I
can not deny there is a great who created this vast universe. This is enough to
question whether one religion recognize the true god. in the book is just a
collection of stories, and for the evidence can not just pass the book itself.
I was disappointed, if you can notrefute this paper correctly but continues to
propagate religion. there is no evidence that god is not at all the same as the
creatures, but also the god life and human life, and human see god see
(corresponding concepts in religion). and think about evidence to not to
mindslave. If we still prefer believe above logic although logic said something
is wrong, so where come from we know we are mindslave or not.
B. CONTENT
1. If any
said that’s was god’s own things, my answer, here is insist statement so you
must be able to rightfully refute if you right, or if you cant rightfully
refute so you don’t have any legality to claim you are right. Any said
that meaning qur’an need special knowledge but what i have use here is general
and explicit like, is it false story about dajjal that dajjal followers are
from infidel and from thin believe? And islam seeking for evidence from prove
like seven layers of sky, unmixed sea water, etc. That can prove by science on
modern phase, and exceept that seem like just theory? Above all is this
possible, just because not believe or infidel then in hell forever, if then any
said we dont know but god has knew, i prefer choose not believe that word
before clear. example weak human not to torturing forever even he not claimed
as parent, meanwhile its already can concluded from religion that human cant
hurt god. If we still prefer believe above logic although logic said
something is wrong, so where come from we know we are mindslave or not. if just
believe so there are much more another religion.
1a. If islam is the only true
religion, and on islam teaching is already clear that god is the supreme good
and most fair, but this is not fair and not good to them peoples who when Isa
still live and christian teaching appearing they very believe to christian
teaching and acquiesce in and brave to tortured till dead for keeping their
christian faith. This is big problem because many people must to be tortured in
hell because this. (that meants they are very believe or without doubt because
they acquiesce in and brave to tortured till dead for keeping their christian
faith, or all event not made them doubting or more worst if they are only too
frightened because christian punishment so their mind is truly confused but
they till acquiesce in to tortured until dead, and they are imposibble seeking
way to lied to god because on the all abrahamistic religion’s teaching god can
know whole human mind content, anf if another religion which true –not
christian- and they was know it so its imposibble they till acquiesce in and
brave to tortured till dead whereas surely will not safe in the hereafter and
surely misfortune until whenever, and tortured till death, and the another
religion which will rescue untill the hereafter, so no use. And if any said
they act like that to protect agnosticism, imposibble, because if they know
another religion which is true –not christian- so clearly for him that another
religion which is true and agnosticism is false, so its imposibble they
acquiesce in and brave to tortured till dead whereas surely make bad result in
the hereafter, and not safe, and on that period wonder agnosticism not yet
appearing). And whereas on islam teaching teach that isa is a prophet who teach
islam, ibrahim is a prophet who teach islam, musa is a prophet who teach islam,
and islam punishment was already clear that if not believe that allah swt. As
the only god so then will tortured in hell, and this teaching –if not believe
that allah swt. As the only god so the will tortured in hell- maybe surely was
teached since ibrahim period, musa and isa because if not punished so its no
use to believe that the only god is allah swt. , and the nowly islam teaching
–that if not believe allah swt. As the only god so then will tortured in
hell- its can is just to controling behavior and the realy is not
punished by god –if not believe- because ever was on religion punishment
principle is not to be punished and just as an introduction. If like this, so
the important is i do good things.
But, in islam teach and said
that only moslem can be in heaven and that verse expert that allowed to be in
heaven is only if still moslem, and places in afterlife for human is just two,
heaven or hell, so this means all infidel although before muhammad came they
will be in hell, so this is unfair. Also explained in hadits that muhammad
unallowed to pray for his mother that death in infidel before allah swt. give
reveal to muhammad, and muhammad also said that his father were in hell.
Moreover, if people that infidel or not believe in islam before islam came by
muhammad is still safe (in afterlife is just two, heaven or hell), so it’s dont
need islam untill forever so all human still safe (not believe islam will
tortured forever), islam is just made harder.
Or, if any said, more future
age the religion’s law principle more and more clearly and showed up all and
the past law was replaced, my opinion, law in islam was clear that only moslem
can to be in heaven and that verse expert that allowed to be in heaven is only
if still moslem, and so this is unfair because the law is more hard, this is
clearly more hard because it was said in islam that muhammad’s people strength
is more weak than the past prophet’s people strength and on islamic history it
was said that the past nation was very hard to believe moreover many was
punished, so this was more hard, and this unbelieve the punishment is tortured
in hell forever, and the condition of that prophet’s people, the example is
between prophet isa’s people and prophet muhammad’s people, not far different.
Then if any said, more hard but more on replies, my opinion, so this become
unfair between prophet muhammad’s people and the past prophet’s people, because
the past prophet’s people not have that bigger chance. and its still more hard,
its even very hard.
Each any christian or chatolic people that
acquiesce in and brave tortured till dead because still believe christian or
chatolic, and happened, so its unfair. if god is almighty (all law obey him)
but any was unfair, so god is indecent.
If any said, that people is
lied to another people with still admit christian is his religion although
tortured till death to just keep his self esteem that he is right although he
knew another religion which is true, or the meant is he lied to human but in
his mind he admit another religion’s truly, so to god he honestly admit another
religion which is true but to human he did lied with admit he is still
christian to keep his self esteem that he is right on another human’s view. My
answer, if he wanted to keep his self esteem to human that he is still right,
so surely he prior choose to not admit christian but admit the religion that
truly right in his mind that which he is already honestly to god, to sometime
he proven right while he can knew the prove. Moreover in another human’s view
that time (time at christian newly appear) mostly estimed christian is false
and minority, (if he want the easy way that is to admit popular religion). if
he cant proving the religion which is he honestly admit to god is the true
religion to another human, so to keep his self esteem in another human’s view
so its surely he prior to choose to admit popular religion (not christian that
is minority that time, at newly appear).
And if any said, that people
is looking for sensation with believe minority religion (christian, religion
that considered as false and minority on that time) and the reason is only just
to feel sensation because minority, so my opinion is, if they faced with
torturing threat so they surely want to change their belief. If they admit
minority religion (christian on that time) because proved true, so its need to
remember that tings that i opposited in this 1a is: if islam is true, with
people that acquiesce in and brave to tortured till death to keep their
christian believe, (so if christian is false).
if only one religion is true,
this people who had harder life but untill the end of his life cant get that
better reward (the moslem is more easybecause was got a rightfully and surely
will benefit-religious guidance), and the another is this people who had harder
life but untill the end of his life must be tortured in hell forever, this is
which must called ‘unfair’. (ex the infidel gangster that already dead
meanwhile islam still far from wide spreaden in USA moreover
in years before, continue read).
1b. If christian or chatolic
is the only true religion, and on christian or chatolic teaching was clearly
teach that god is the supreme good and most fair, but this is not fair and not
good to them peoples who muhammad still live and islam teaching appearing, they
are very believe to islam teaching and acquiesce in and brave to tortured till
dead for keeping their islam faith. This is big problem because many people
must to be tortured in hell because this. (which meants they are very believe
or without doubt because they acquiesce in and brave to tortured till dead for
keeping their islam faith, or all event not made him doubting or more worst if
they are only too frightened because islam punishment so then their mind is
realy confused but till acquiesce in to tortured till dead. And they are
imposibble to seeking way to lied to god because on all abrahamistic religion’s
teaching teach god can know all human mind content, and if another religion
which true –not islam- and they was know it so then its imposibble they are
till acquiesce in and brave to tortured till dead whereas surely not safe in
the hereafter and surely misfortune untill whenever , and tortured till death,
and another religion which will rescue untill the hereafter, so no use. And if
any said they act like that to protect agnosticism, imposibble, because if they
know another religion which is true –not islam- so its clearly for him another
religion which is true and agnosticism is false, so its imposibble they acquiesce
in and brave to tortured till dead whereas surely make bad result in the
hereafter, and not safe, and on that period wonder agnosticism not yet
appearing). And whereas on christian or chatolic teaching the punisment was
clearly that if not believe jesus as the only god so then will tortured in
hell.
If any said, that people is
lied to another people with still admit islam is his religion although tortured
till death to just keep his self esteem that he is right although he knew
another religion which is true, or the meant is he lied to human but in his
mind he admit another religion’s truly, so to god he honestly admit another
religion which is true but to human he did lied with admit he is still islam to
keep his self esteem that he is right on another human’s view. My answer, if he
wanted to keep his self esteem to human that he is still right, so surely he
prior choose to not admit islam but admit the religion that truly right in his
mind that which he is already honestly to god, to sometime he proven right
while he can knew the prove. Moreover in another human’s view that time (time
at islam newly appear) mostly estimed islam is false and minority, (if he want
the easy way that is to admit popular religion). if he cant proving the
religion which is he honestly admit to god is the true religion to another
human, so to keep his self esteem in another human’s view so its surely he
prior to choose to admit popular religion (not islam that is minority that
time, at newly appear).
And if any said, that people is
looking for sensation with believe minority religion (islam, religion that
considered as false and minority on that time) and the reason is only just to
feel sensation because minority, so my opinion is, if they faced with torturing
threat so they surely want to change their belief. If they admit minority
religion (islam on that time) because proved true, so its need to remember that
things that i opposited in this 1b is: if christian is true, with people that
acquiesce in and brave to tortured till death to keep their islam believe, (so
if islam is false).
2. If we
imagine a very brutal murder, mutilation example, if God as creator of all that
exists, then god was also the creator of the potential of mutilation murder,
this way it is God who first had the idea of mutilation, he even created a potential mutilation
that can occur in humans. then, it's impossible God is all-good and most holy. And god did
torture. making it a potential loss triggers of all crime, at all the crimes that
have occurred there only trigger crimes are revealed, not to mention that it successfully
suppressed. angry can very big, then crime hard to suppress, it's mean god made
human life difficult. Example is who gave brains to human? That can used
to learn and process influence from outside to be an idea. (to continue reading
this part jump to paragraph 22). On religion murder is prohibited, so god who create
potention of mutilation then mutilation can occur to human so god is the
creator of all crime (god did bad).I ever read that most holy means holy from
all bad, meanwhile wants crime is must be a bad, and dont wants crime is must
be holy. (my own think, hehe) The
essence of holy is more close to dont want any crime, meanwhile not did any
false is more close to wise. At least, God the mind is not holy because he who
first had the idea of crime, and his act is not holy to because he also has
share of crime because he who create all form and potention of crime, and that
crime potention was much used by human, (God is the creator of all crime). If most holy
means dont want any crime, meanwhile not did false is more close to wise. So
god is not most wise because was did false because have share on crime because
he is the creator of all form and potention of crime (god is the creator of the
entire universe and all its content). And that crime potention was much used by
human, god himself who made human can did crime from cant did any crime. And i
ever read the means of most wise is all he did is always right and contain
wisdom. Crime is badness and falseness, so anyone who has share on crime, so he
has share on badness and falseness. Einstein and Kalasnikov maybe their mind is
dont want crime, but their did still contain some false because has share on
made of deadly weapon which can used on crime. God is different with Einstein
and Kalasnikov, their ability is limited and very influenced by the law of
consequences, meanwhile god is almighty and all of influence and consequences
came from god. If he by aware was included in assisting the crime to happen, so
he by aware was included in assisting badness and falseness to happen, so he
was did badness and falseness.
Then if any said, God create crime with any
function, that is for us to know goodness. My answer, this is said about
another thing, not most holy still applied. And, if God is almighty, so all is
good still can be created, not complicated like must crime to exist which is
more risky.
If any said that is demon’s
work, my answer, what's the proof if that is demon's work? God also create demons with all his personality, god also
create potention so demon can misleading human. Remember god who create everything, (demon claimed
as did bad that just use, so god also must claimed as did bad that who
create). Crime is just add any problem, if god is almighty so all law obey
him, he free to change any law, so god can create although only good things in
the world (and only goodwill not badwill) but its
still worthfull for him. Any said if only good things in world (and only
goodwill not badwill) so human become worthless for god, my answer, god dont
be egoist, no one of human need to be murdered if god can make only good things
in the world (and only goodwill not badwill),and human is
weak. Any said only who struggle that accepted to receive good reward, my
answer, human have its right since human have feeling, human created by god so
its his responsibility.god himself made it harder with he create pride
level, but he can erase it quickly or just keep that in his mind. God also have
all his ability in direct way or without process (religion) then with his almighty
everything become easy for god, but religion still say god is worthfull. The
dissappear of crime and loss is more worthly than happiness that only from
pride level that is very small thing. With that, god claimed as alljustice, holy, and
allgood as god did justice to all, holy, and not did bad, with that all crime
potention and loss potention and unfair so we still can reduce our say from
alljustice and allgood to unfair and did bad. Its not right if we say god did
alljustice but we found this unfair to finally of each human life I compared.
I also want to criticize these two Hadits (or
muhammad answer).
3. from Sa'd ibn Abi Waqash, I asked Muhammad saw.,
"O Messenger of Allah, who is human with most serious tested?" He
replied, "The prophets, then the people who has same as the prophets, then
the people who has same as them. How much a servant of God tested based of his
faith. If the sturdy faith, test will be heavier. But if his faith is weak,
then it will be tested based on the faith. And test will not leave of a servant
until the day she left it running in the face of the earth like he did not have
a single sin. (Narrated by Turmudzi).
Trials and testing is one form of the love of God
towards His servants.
4. From Anasibn Malik that muhammad saw. said,
"how much of the reward is dependent on the how much of the test from God.
And verily Allah.if He loving a people, God tests them. If (with the test)
their accepted, God also gave His good bless. And who is angry (not pleased),
then God will angry to him. "(Narrated by IbnMajah and Turmudzi)
My critique: (Although free from that two hadits,
still unfair)
5. try to compare that live in islamic saudi arabia
certainly just has less viscous tease on life than the life in non-Islamic
American wild, there is more discos, naked woman, casino, they might do with
easythink, but still it is more lot of teasing to commit violating, and may be
punished suddenly reckless. insaudiarabia can pray in peace, and has not a lot
of conflict to his faith, saudiarabia people may be happy afterlife. in America,
though perhaps they like, but each of the many treats there any said can
invited the wrath of god. This is like living in a cradle hold, or in nest
cunning wolf. striking difference was also seen between american infants and
saudiarabia infants. If with islam the human’s struggle not easier or
become more difficult but has the same earnings, so it dont need islam. if with
islam human's struggle is easier although has same earnings so its unfair. If
any said that proving before believe is gain better reward from god, my
opinion, if that's true that proving before believe gain better
reward (harder way gain better reward) so its become unfair to people
who had believe islam since birth because cant get that better reward, and so
its true that between muhammad and infidel baby, the infidel baby gain better
reward (about this read paragraph 6-9).
But, with islam human’s
struggle become easier and will get better reward in world and afterlife, isn’t
it?, because with a human become moslem so the way is opened to happy not only
in the world but also in afterlife. It’s different with still infidel till
death, max he happy in world but will tortured forever in afterlife, no way for
him to happy in afterlife. More long he in moslem, so more much the chance to
accept that way to happy in world and afterlife.
if that's not true, its still unfair to people that
infidel since birth because its more harder to live with the first way of life
that is wrong, if its easier or same to live with wrong first way of life so
its dont need to changed. To get wrong first way of life since birth (infidel)
that is dangerous that is harder way, to get right first way of life since
birth that is safe that is easier way. If any said they are more easy to get
knowledge to prove islam, my opinion, but they still in dangerous first. And
how many of them that was death before modern age and after muhammad
come?! If proving before believe gain better reward at first but then can
overtake by islam since birth (I meant in same condition) that meants islam
since birth have bigger chance so its unfair. If any said that’s was god’s
own things, my answer, here is insist statement so you must be able to
rightfully refute if you right, or if you cant rightfully refute so you don’t
have any legality to claim you are right. Its not right if we say god did
alljustice but we found this unfair to finally of each human life I
compared. If any said god’s justice is different, god’s mercy is
different, human just cant see them. My answer,if only one religion is true,
this people who had harder life but untill the end of his life cant get that
better reward (the moslem is more easybecause was got a rightfully and surely
will benefit-religious guidance), and the another is this people who had harder
life but untill the end of his life must be tortured in hell forever, this is
which must called ‘unfair’. (ex the infidel gangster that already dead
meanwhile islam still far from wide spreaden in USA moreover
in years before, continue read).
we dont know if
moslem baby his fate is changed to become infidel baby since birth, so what he
did will better or worst than infidel baby. And also the unfair that they
together starting from zero but any is given with bigger chance(both of them is
capable). If its true the infidel baby was stronger since birth, so then god
give him harder life test but that is the bigger chance. The comparison is like
this, here are 2 people A and B. A is a bachelor while B middle scholl graduate
(assumed A is an infidel baby who was stronger since birth, while B is moslem
baby), at same time they apply for job in company T. Then, ‘A’ got a job as a
supervisor with bigger salary because he capable, while ‘B’ got a job in
production with salary below the A. so this is it ‘A’ got bigger reward because
he is more capable and got bigger ‘chance. Its yet like that between muhammad
and infidel baby, muhammad is ‘A’ and infidel baby is ‘B’.
6. And muhammad saw. he had direct revelation from
god, not from himself searching, he immediately get the teachings that
according to him is true, and Muhammad saw. Also chosen, he maintained and he
have made to be free from errors made (according to the teachings), may
muhammad saw a lot of bad morals, but he was guarded by his community (or from
god too) from accept most of bad impact, if you read history, many close
communities appreciate someone's life although using the wrong teaching, not
experience much problems in thinking system, should see immediately if you want
to see naked women. And the teachings of idolatry when in that time is not
complex and convincing doctrine, not have a lot of social threats and threats
of punishment of the idolatrous doctrine, so that the mind is still free, and
the Christian religion are still the minority. And there is a story,muhammad
protected so as not to worship idols before the revelation came to him. action
is fruit of thought, and the teachings of Islam are teachings Islam is the most
important thing, all defeated by islam, the Islamic faith is the most beautiful
gift that can be used as way of life that drove the man to the pleasures of the
world hereafter, and Muhammad saw. Get it easily, while receiving the revelation
that he was just a headache, not a mental illness. In contrast to the
non-Muslim Americans infants, since childhood he was getting heavier test
because the first teachings of worship is beside Allah swt., mind system
educated in Christian or Catholic teachings that certainly if only Islam that
is true religion then it will lead to the hell, their first faith is the
Christian faith that any said lower, their first way of life is christian
teaching that any said infidel. May they prosper, but must have a lot of read
in order to compete there. Not only facing the enormous influence from the
environment in the form of profanity, drugs, crime, and pornography, free sex,
invitation to return to religion is Christianity, whose influence is large and
the majority there. At the time the Christian religion that any said infidels
started sagging, with advances in technology and prosperity they will easily
see naked women on the internet, in clubs, music and lyrics, and the teachings
of Islam are still far away, they do not get yelled by God by direct revelation
and complete as muhammad, and also not invited to walk to the sky by God
directly, but Al-Qaeda necessarily want to kill them, and god was just silent
and just rely on the direct words of the scholars, or to wait them to die and
relieved excruciating. If Allah swt warned them with disaster, of course they
are most potentially return to Christian teachings and said the disaster was
from their god as a warning, and then remained infidels. Babies have become older
Americans, many have died, and Allah swt. Still does not change the decision,
who knows how many more will like it. From this it can be concluded, the test
of american babies are heavier than the teasing to Muhammad, should the reward
of the american are more, words associated with how much reward depends on the
size of how much test from allahswt, but they are more difficult to just
survive if the only true religion is Islam. Muhammad was able to successfully
establish Islam, and allahswt. Promise that he will make islam win, but the
poor gangsters in America, they die young in still disbelief. Allah swt.has
been and probably will be torturing with impunity. Whether life would be more
proving that Allah swt. Is not all good and not justice and did torture? Are
the poor infidels American gangsters would go to heaven without faith in Islam?
It should be clear, they are not ants, we as fellow human beings who value
humanity must struggle their interests until the hereafter, but what if clarity
may not come? Not only struggle the interests of their own group like Muhammad.
Islam teachs if there is any false in a religion book, so that book isn’t come
from god, and islamteachsislam is a complete religion. this is conduct to
reverse, if christian is the only true faith, so moslems who has believe in
islam since their born isn’t fair to suddenly excruciating. and they also have
to prove the words that Jesus is the creator of the entire universe, if you
like more preaching.
7. Are you not able to point? Islam teaches that
the Islamic faith is the most important boon as the human way of life that is
forever and beat the other sciences, even beat parents, siblings, children, and
wife etc.. so if someone says Muhammad who lost parent, uncle, and his wife but
did not lose his faith in Islam is more severe ordeal than poor American
gangster who since birth had disbelieve and die young in disbelief despite not
losing a parent, brother, son, and wife, is tantamount to saying that parents,
siblings, children, and the wife is more important than the faith of Islam is
faith in Allah swt. lets compare, where the loss of more important things,
Muhammad lost parent, uncle, and his wife, but do not lose faith in Islam,
whereas in the American infidel gangsters had not had faith in Islam although
probably not lose family. If the answer is that the Islamic faith is more
important then the consequence is a trial to the gangster was more severe, it
might be like to write using a computer than to write using a typewriter, then
it should be the gangsters get more reward, and then stay in the heaven that is
better than muhammad, although it separated from the existence of two earlier
hadith, as they get a trial or more severe difficulties, this may be as a
person who gets food and vehicles to work than other people who got food,
vehicles, and homes.
8. If islam true, so muhammad was had the right
foundation that directly guided by god, just because this so muhammad if his
sin was all finished in hell then after that he will surely placed in heaven,
while the infidel american gangster dont have the right foundation and not
directly guided by god, because this so if he still infidel till dead so he
surely tortured forever in hell. After that, muhammad become easier (in
psychological, mentally, mind) and have chance for propagate the faith, do holy
war, do devout, working for money that will add merit bigger. While the infidel
american gangster, he dont have chance to propagate the faith with true way as
long as still infidel, dont have chance to do the true holy war because still
infidel, they difficult to seek for money and maybe must with war each other,
wrong devout because infidel, working for money but not surely will be survivor
because its not sure his charity will accepted by god. infidel baby have harder
way on first than muhammad (that surely right) and then he left behind because
muhammad have bigger chance to gain better from devout and do good things. If
any said life test of muhammad is heavier althought his chance is bigger. My
answer, exactly that is heavier life test to infidel gangster, infidel gangster
not got life test which can be stepping stone and big chance for fix themself
or repair themself like on muhammad. Muhammad who guided by god specially and
gain task from that special guid to more propagate faith because as prophet,
pray, and lead islam, and charity promise which 100 percent can trusted by
muhammad because he ever see angel and invited to walk to the sky, so then on
psychologiest his mind will more easy to guided and always goes to good things,
not like the infidel gangster. And on mentally, muhammad will be more strong
and brave (mental very needed on war) on war because gain support and special
guiding from god, and any story that muhammad helped by god on his wars. And
muhammads pray become more in quality because as prophet he gain more task, and
that is muhammad chance to pray more qualify.
If with islam the human’s struggle not easier or
become more difficult but has the same earnings, so it dont need islam.But, with
islam human’s struggle become easier and will get better reward in world and
afterlife, isn’t it?, because with a human become moslem so the way is opened
to happy not only in the world but also in afterlife. It’s different with still
infidel till death, max he happy in world but will tortured forever in afterlife,
no way for him to happy in afterlife. More long he in moslem, so more much the
chance to accept that way to happy in world and afterlife.
So its unfair. if any said its was that gangster
false himself, so Read again about this (start at paragraph 5) (I guess
its enough because islam in US still far from wide spreadent moreover in years
before. and its no way just don’t want islam that infidel gangster, its no way
just don’t want because any say about punishment and reply) or read
paragraph 19. Please note that gangster ever a baby that influenced by
environment and its no way we blame baby that his logic still weak, and its no
way if the thing is considered will benefit by him and he feel he can do it
(not just to pray but also all situation related) but the baby learn to
directly don’t want (also all ages), I meant the infidel. because all decision
changing is because these two things, things is considered will benefit or loss
by him and he feel he can do it.
9. But in fact, the pagan gangsters still
threatened with the torments of hell forever. And because (and when) Islam
teaches all the good will be useless if no faith in Allah swt. (the gangster
that young death surely all his good did is useless, different with muhammad)
Sin infidelity will never be forgiven and the person will be tortured in hell
forever, and yet to prove the truth of the teachings of Islam had to use
high-tech and even then not all and yet also not prove that Allah swt. Is the
creator of the whole universe, and about the nature of Allah swt. No one can
prove it for sure. And if the answer is parents, siblings, children, and the
wife is more important than the faith of Islam, as far as I know the original
Quran and Hadith not teach it. This is clearly unfair, and unjust dealing with
not good, not wise, not true. And need to remember that the gangster in the
past is babies that get very strong influence from their environment untill
their DNA.
10. This is clearly unfair, if only the true
religion is Islam, at a time when small children are already believers in
islamicsaudiarabia since birth, meaning since birth they have got the truth of
the faith, in contrast to small children who believe in the American Christian
from birth, they would be taught the Christian religion first, then if one gets
the news about the goodness of Islam and then interested in learning about
Islam (and not get that fatal first conclusion about Islam) and then they
started to study Islam, if he seriously studied as desirous to know which
religion truth is from God, it is then he needs to compare the two, (it should
be understood that this is the two religion is complex), and if the knowledge
is still less then felt he needed to learn more, then compare again until he
found religion where the most load of evidence that the religion is from the
gods, or find a religion which no errors, first is comparing the moral
teachings and events that can be studied, and if he is not too tired because of
her quest (besides taking care of the other areas of their lives, and not busy
doing criminal) and then managed to find that Islam is the true religion of
God, and then he prayer, saudiarabia different from children even though they
are not interested in learning about Christianity, but their faith is correct.
During that search, of using a lot of time, if at all both countries are
equally safe and conducive, and the example taken two children from each
country both live for 100 years, and if the boys can do all worship offered
Islam during the Islamic faith, it will be more committed worship by saudi
arabia child. During the search, the little ones in the U.S. that grows there
will get more influence in the country to commit a crime, pornography, free
sex, engaging battle gangs, and drugs, and it is stated that in the U.S. more
prosperous so much more access to education and escape poverty, but it is
necessary to understand whether there is quite binding moral education, and
with the more prosperity they can buy more guns, build the villa as a home porn
video production, purchase and trade of drugs, build or play in the casino.
11. But, the consequences of a test of faith is
still faith or to disbelieve, or at least only sick, but it said god wants
simple arrangement for moslem, when life looking for just good income is difficult,
but added with other test, although he could face up to heaven but it’s still
mean god desires trouble for moslem with the His test.
12. Proving that the sky is seven layer because any
said it’s not seven (i read from internet), proving that Allah swt. (not word
‘god’ that neutral, but word ‘alloh’ that direct to islam, or word ‘jesus’ that
direct to christian) Is the creator of the entire universe (entirely), not only
is able to proving his ability to speak in the Quran, such as just the word
about human from semen and semen from an extract of the land, he said he
created the world from the expanse of rolling media, stage embryo growth, he
said he was expanding universe, he said the sky and the earth were one piece
then We parted them, etc.. Proving traits of allah swt. One of them is
all-knowing, ask him where the place of the unknown star, that even scientists
want telling you and the generosity that scientist tell from the scientist 's
own mouth, that God may tell but with the hard work of the scientists, but the
hard work of the scientist with the limited that he had, and with his own
mouth, whether god will remain stingy? Proving that floating stone is Allah
swt.'s creation. Proving if allah swt. Not only able to tell, but he did as
creator (not just talk but does creator), and he is not a beautiful agent spy
or backstabbing secretary that knows some then want to rule. In teachs of
religion there are demons who want to be misleading in various ways (only
on believe thing, another can be by desire and teasing, on another abrahamistic
religion’s perspektive although only disbelieve but must be tortured in hell,
also on islam perspektive although only disbelieve but must be tortured in hell
(as same as the seven layer of sky and others, the prove from exceept islam,
also very small than the whole universe and only on believe thing, and can be
just devil misleading)), proving he is not the devil who after know some
then wants to rule or misleading. and statement that said a name of
muhammad was already said in bible was already refuted, that that is not
muhammad but already answered that is the truth spirit or holy spirit, that is
holy spirit that already mentioned in yohanes 14:17 and yohanes 16:13 with that
spirit requirements, and there is any requirement that cant fulfilled by
muhammad. And on song of songs 5:16, but its already said that is not muhammad
but male bride that reply praise to each other and live when that bible first
made, while muhammad is imposibble to reply praise to each other because he not
yet live when that time, if another verse was also readed detailed. and should
proving that 'muhammad' name is not a name that whispered by devil to his
parent, to have same with bible content, moreover muhammad's parent is
worshiping idolatry, and remember that devil is misleading in various ways. And
was said its not people name. And although (if) bible was proved changed by
human, but it can be the contradiction on bible is because human who changed it
while pure bible from holy spirit is none of contradiction. So with, bible was
proved had ever changed by human, its not yet correct to say christian is
false. About why holy spirit like dont guarding bible content, but in islam
teaching islam is admit that bible is also from god, so its same question, why
allah swt. is like not guarding bible content.So god is improper, because isa
have miracle but bible can be changed by human, so its made chance for
christian and chatolic to appear, and there are so many of its follower.
And how to proving that bible has never changed. And if the contradiction on
bible is because holy spirit (contradiction exist since on pure bible), so its
same question, why allah swt. made contradiction on bible, because islam admit
that pure bible is also from god.And the logicaly is, that contradiction will
be lowering the trust level to pure bible (islam that brought by isa) if since
from holy spirit (or allah swt) was had contradiction. Like what will happen to
quran if quran have contradiction. So once more i think god is improper. about
muhammad name Can be found more on internet. Then if islam is false, but
why islam was ever gain constantinopel teritory, i think the answer is, god
allowing devil to teasing human and god allowing someone to commit crime, so
there is no reason devil cant help for deeping misleading human. another
example is colonizer that ever controling momentary. This is different if devil
directly kill all human, so no one of human sinful, and different if devil
misleading some human for war each other. We do not yet know how the
actual state of politics between universe and another universe between the
gods. are you have not heard, the gods were getting add of their most energy to
fight among themselves and sex from the circle energy through the cosmic that
comes from neurons wave that devote himself, if traced, it relates to God 's
ability to know the entire contents of the human mind, if the man close to God,
and there is also another man near him, but only God who knows the entire
contents of the mind, not human, and God can know from any distance, whether
brain neurons transmit waves of energy between cosmic which can only be
translated as the contents of the mind by god? Then is it the only interests?
we have never known. And do not say it all had to be returned to the Quran,
because when you're little and learn the Quran, of course had first check the
contents of the Qur'an with the truth. Not all facts can be known only from the
Quran, the Quran there are only about seven layers of the sky etc, there is
nothing about how to make oil refinery, the name of the planet Saturn, the
number of stars in the Milky Way, and how the mind controls the body, and islam
teach order to proving what quran said. Said traits allah swt. Is all- good,
best fair, all-knowing, etc., but you not yet know how the state of life on the
entire planet in the entire universe, it could be is fraud, because is it just
allah swt.? And order verses on each religion book are simple so its difficult
to prove the order is from god or not. all that is like seven layer of sky (if
true) are just very small if compared with the whole universe, not too much
demand, but the importance not yet proved that are who else exceept human with
sure, and between them who each can say word like in the quran (What is
the guarantee if that few telling is from the truly god?), if god always
good and sure will fulfill his promise, and if he is the creator of whole
universe as in the teaching. about human that become source, god is have the
heart to made animal as source to human whereas animal also have
needs, meat we eat. More another detail
critiq about islam claim on universe on http://www.1000mistakes.com/CorrectingRefuting.html
13. But, if there something that claimed he is god
and then show a model of creating universe, then we need to ask if this the
true model of universe creating on past? If he
bring us to the past on when universe creating, then we need to ask if
this true the past is like that?
14. Then to add understand that we not yet really
know what all happen on universe is to think the story about dajjal. Islam
teach a story (and it was claimed surely true) that before the end of the world
a human name is dajjal will appear, he will slander bettweenmoslem with
wandering purpose, first he trick he struggle moslem interests, then he claim
he is prophet, then he claim he is god, he want all human worship him, and with
his strong magic that god give to him –but without mercy from allah- he trip to
whole earth to seek follower and if a human won’t then dajjal will murder
him. Dajjal followers exceept 70.000 that go along surround the earth
there is followers that stay on itself region around the earth. The last
story dajjal will killed by isa as. Isa as. Delegated by allah as saviour. Then
the problem is, if that story is 100% will happen and doesn’t have any wrong,
so with healthy mind we can conclude that allahswt. Fate dajjallife is so bad
and suffer, dajjal is a human with no chance to do the right. Then also with
healthy mind we can conclude that allahswt. Did unfair and so bad, with this i
don’t believe the happily promise will not be undid. on one side, allah give
very strong magic to dajjal that smooth dajjal's action, in other side allah
sent isa as. to kill dajjal, realy bad scenario.
Dajjal story source :KeluarnyaDajjal, Imam mahdi,
ya’juj-ma’jujdanNabi Isa bin Maryam. byFirzatullahDwiko R.
15. And I think the story is not intended as a
forecast but as scenario -allah told muhammad that the gods would do ...-
because there is a plan directly from the gods to give great magic to dajjal
and sent Isa as. to kill Dajjal. God's plan to grant the request of the dajjal
is the power of magic (if not by the plan of god , but god is going to do then
means there are other forces that control the gods). Dajjal was exceeded over
another man with his magic means a special treatment (means have desired) that
overstate the potential magic on dajjal, even if the magic powers is reguested
by dajjal, but the granting of a request by a god means that the Dajjal is
given special treatment. Maybe God can foresee he'll need to do to give magic
and sent Isa, but by giving magic and then sent Isa means direct intervention
from the gods that have been told from the beginning by a god or gods in other
words means doing something that happens as told. If god still will send isa,
then the gods must ensure dajjal become bad man, because if the dajjal is a
good man then he wouldn’t killed by Isa
as. That sent as a savior.
16. And also told that most people who live toward
the end of the world is very bad morals and there are many people of Islamic
faith but with thin faith then these people who later would become followers of
the dajjal. i conclude that the fate victim is not only dajjal, because so many
people on that time that influenced by dajjal's magic so then they accept to be
dajjal's followers (need to understand that dajjal's followers added so fast
after dajjal use his magic) and that magic is given from allah so it's means
allah swt. was also the reason why many people accept to be dajjal's followers
but then this people crushed until no one left. if it's bad, don't make worse.
if infidel was bad, don't make worse with give magic to dajjal so then smooth
his action.
17. If dajjal’s magic power that used to people who
thin of believe was said as test, if with that magic power offered from god
then god in this second can predict that with dajjal’s magic power peoples with
thin of believe surely will be infidel as like in the story about dajjal so my
opinion is it can be said that the test is too hard for that people (so doesn’t
fit with the teaching), because it was can predicted they will become infidel
so it is fit with the story. And if peoples with thin believe the truly are
available survive from the test so will not become infidel, it must god can’t
predict with sure their infidel and must to waiting because they are still can
changed to be infidel or not, because if can predicted in the story about
dajjal that that peoples with thin believe surely will become infidel so it’s
means they surely can’t survive from that test. Then it means that test is
too hard because if the test is just hard then it means still have any chance
to survive. More bad if it is not prediction but scenario. Can’t say
that the truly is they can survive but they won’t, it’s means things that make
them won’t is also test, or they become infidel because forced because afraid
of dajjal’s magic power.
18. Two things facing is, the test too hard so
surely become infidel with the test just hard so still can survive and still
can changed, infidel or believe. If was can predicted surely become infidel so
its means already can measured that ability is under the hard of test, and if just
hard then ability still higher than the hard of test so still have infidel
chance and believe chance, then god must wait first until time passed, but
if god was know become infidel or believe so god already measure all
reality bring someone become infidel and all reality bring someone else still
believe. If already can measured with prediction that all reality bring someone
surely become infidel, so its means there is already no chance to safe, if
since beginning there is already no chance to safe so can said the test more
hard then ability or the test is too hard. and dont forget they are
was ever been clean babies that already predicted surely will become infidels
because influenced (also khawarij at the end of world that will be dajjal
followers that told on hadits). also the already infidel that will be dajjal
followers also was ever been baby, they predicted surely already infidel then
surely will become dajjal followers. And i want repeat that what thing made
won’t is also the test. And, if already can measured become infidel or not,
then no use from test, why not directly in heaven and hell? Maybe in
beginning the test just hard but in the last, things had been predicted surely
become infidel, this is it as god can predict that in the last time surely will
become infidel thats means god has measured that whatever happen in the last
time all reality surely will change him become infidel, and this is same as no
survive chance. One example again, if the test just hard but the human
itself dont want islam, then if the test never too hard so he still can changed
to become want islam, but its not like that if god already can surely
predicting that human at last will surely become infidel dan already surely
cant changed, with that prediction its means god already measured that whatever
happen, at last all reality will surely made him to become infidel and
cant changed again, and its means the test already become too hard because at
last all reality will surely made him become infidel and cant changed, and its
means no survive chance. It also can applied to people that predicted by god
will have been already infidel then become dajjal’s follower, before that he
maybe bad people but if the test never too hard he still can become good people
(punishment must to make neutral not more bad, if that so the one that must be
punished is the punisher) but its already cut because no one can change about
at last whatever happen (whatever bigger try) all reality will made him will
been already infidel then become dajjal’s follower.
19. Then if any said, it maybe god already have
been measured that people will lazy try. My opinion, what things behind that
lazy? It must be any stimulus behind this like psychological, and inner and
outter condition which is also the test. Meanwhile if that people since the
first time of life is normal, and all his selffunction are doing well (since
first time of life it must have been already given, because if any is given
weak then coincidentally hit with bad event, it must be the maker false), and
the test is never too hard (so all human still can survive) so no one of human
will be failed at against life test because no one else can distrub.
normal and selffunction envelop all human's ability to against world, life test
envelop whole world. Example (check causality), need to go work this morning
but too tired because done overtime to finish office task at home (test too
hard), want to go work but prefer to do playing game because have been addicted
because maybe selfdefense is weak because not enough trained (selffunction is
weak) or maybe any big feeling that dominating (selffunction is weak) or maybe
his brain is just exhilarated (selffunction is weak), about addicted to drugs
maybe at the first time he use drugs his mind is not ready or selfdefense is
weak (selffunction is weak) or maybe because exhausted from problem (test too
hard), about student that lazy of studying maybe because his mind is not enough
trained (From parent or teacher that also his mind not enough trained or
too hard situation, and its no way we blame baby that his logic still weak, and
its no way if the thing is considered will benefit by him and he feel he can do
it (not just to pray but also all situation related) but the baby learn to
directly don’t want (also all ages), I meant the infidel. because all
decision changing is because these two things, things is considered will
benefit or loss by him and he feel he can do it) or selfdefense is weak or
maybe any big feeling that dominating like sleepy or something else (selffunction
is weak) or confused (selffunction is weak or test too hard). Then if any
event, there is a person hate this religion’s critique then wants to revenge
critic my conclusion in this paragraph, once upon a time he doing working then
although he is not sleepy but he choose to sleep with refute my conclusion
purpose for proving a person can failed from against life test although his
selffunction still doing well, then he conclude a person can failed from
against life test although his selffunction still doing well. My answer is, if
valued before, which is more important to him to do, if his working is more
important than to refute my conclusion, so that people was failed from against
life test because his mind cant find which is more important or because his
hate is so big and dominate then the only thing in his mind just to refute my
conclusion (selffunction is weak). Then if refute my conclusion is more
important than his working so he must concluded that he is not failed but
success, because he was did something benefitly, he success defeat life test.
Why like this, because its related to success or failed against life test, then
its surely become related to good or bad, benefit or loss. Good means surely
benefit, bad means surely loss. If success so means surely benefit, if failed
so means surely loss (life test). its impossible if someone has defeat wise
god's life test but still loss. If any said without desire there is no
development, my answer, with bad desire life test still must not too hard, and
bad desire meants weak selffunction, in religion we must get away from bad
desire to success from life testso its meants we also need to get away
from weak selffunction to not failed from life test.
20. Here is enough much and important consequences
with conclusion of the tests are too hard, that is related to conclusions that
are god is indecent or not always good or harsh, injustice, with any statement
can be concluded god is not almighty, can be concluded that the teach is teach
from evil if evil is bad and god is good are convinced, that is have
consequences that is contradictive with the teachs on religions.
21. About indecent, not always good, or harsh. If
choose indecent if god as the creator of all and create from not exist to exist
and almighty so he free to choose himself and not forced all existed law that
he want for universe, if forced means not almighty (in islam one of
meanings of almighty is all another obey him, that each of all that meaning
must exist and united) above all if god wants goodness so this injustice
will be important for him and he will struggle it and surely will success, but
he permit it, if there any that can make god neglected so it must be himself
that create god can neglect because he is the creator of all although that
neglectness from another power but it is god himself that made another power
can make god neglect because its god that create all another power, but he
already know because it said the first story about dajjal is come from allah
swt, means this injustice not because indecent but deliberated wrong. If choose
not always good, so need to alert when and how god not good. If choose harsh so
maybe need to fight. About injustice so its like what Louis O. Katsoff wrote,
where is this injustice come from while god wants goodness, is he forced so its
can concluded not almighty? And if injustice, although not prove god is not the
great fair if the meaning of the great fair is most fair (but in islam one
of meanings of the great fair is not inflict a loss anything, that each of all
that meaning must exist and united) but we still need to alert.
22. And to add understand again that we not yet
surely know the situation on whole universe is to think what Louis O. Kattsoff
wrote, where is come from all of this badness in the world while god want
goodness, is he forced so can concluded god is not almighty? Later there is any
said that god is complicated, my opinion, its will not complicated if god is
almighty, if god is almighty so all power and law obey him, he free to change
and control, so no one is hard, and then its told god wants goodness. If god as
the creator of all so its also him who created all form and potention of crime
and loss, but its told that god wants goodness, so this is contradictive on
religion, and im not believe to statement that said god always good or not
indecent. this is surely excessive if just to make human to be himself and dont
need to add any goodness but already made infidel will be tortured in hell,
another function can by god himself. Then if god give task to human that
could be done by god himself better then made any human must be tortured in
hell (made a chance) (maybe because human false itself, but with god gave that
task made human have chance to be in hell), so that is more harsh, This
like if the member did the task will be dangerously, but if the boss did will
easy success, where is your leadership? then if human live on earth to
struggle to have much honor so it still not fair or harsh because any human
must tortured in hell, if god make disappear honor class-law so its all done
faster and good, that is not hard if god is almighty. And if any human tortured
in hell so the honor of that human become very bad. With the purpose to make
human struggle by himself then the consequency are any human tortured with
powerful and any human be in heaven, its more better that from begining human
still on heaven and eat as natural. Im not believe with statement that human
placed on earth with special task to lead earth, or when it seems human most better
on earth then that statement appear? And, the human not give any use to earth
but human take use from earth, and for animal, its more quantity animal eaten
by human than human take care to animal and that activities allowed on
religion, we but rather eat them not lead them, Its more quantity animal
gave use to human than human gave use to animal. All animal will allowed by
religion to be eaten by human if the animal are not disgusting, dangerous, and
any another condition, that means human allowed to eat all that animal if dont
make any problem. If all animal are not disgusting, dangerous, so what animal
we will take care? And animal that disgusting and dangerous rarely we
care. Example if elephants are much quantity, surely allowed to be consumed. then
if for lead human itself so its better we still on heaven and eat as natural
than placed on earth but open chance to be tortured in hell, then if any said
human placed on earth because human false itself, but its told from begining
that god create human with purpose to make human as leader on earth and devil
teasing is just as a way, but better eat as natural on heaven. If just to
dominate and exploit the earth just for human interest itself, so why human
placed on earth? Human has got better pleasure on heaven, pray has become
useless if just for human interest itself because ever got better on heaven. If just
for human be himself and dont need to add any profit so its not fair with the
dangerous.So its cant another, human task on earth is to lead (give benefit) to
earth content exceept human, but (on realistic) human is not the leader on
earth isnit. All benefit given from human to another earth content was defeated
because human has more much of take benefit, like this, A give 1000 money to B
while B give 500000 money to A (barter), surely who will said as gave benefit
is B.And for word said human created to pray, my opinion, for what this pray,
if for repair the quality of human life so can did by god himself better and
not dangerous like hell torture (back to my beginning opinion, and its means
not improve life), if just for human be himself and dont need to add any profit
so its not fair with the dangerous.If any said human task on
earth is to improve the quality of human life and be autonomous, both at same
time and both are important. My answer, god can improve the quality of human
life better, so this task is not important again to done by human because god
can done that better. Because this task is not important again to done by human
so become must not to done both of them at same time, because its truly not
important to done by human. Then its still left one task and its can done only
by human, that is to be autonomous. But if just to be autonomous and dont need
to add any benefit, so this become not fair with the danger, because many
people different on faith (so half must be tortured in hell), and religion rule
are many and who violating them are many to. Human task to become autonomous is
not relevant to done exceept if have potention to improve the quality of human
life in better way, but if its related to improve human life so its become can
done by god better, because god is almighty. Then if any said, god is holy and
wise so all thing related to him also must holy and wise. My answer, god can directly
make human holy and wise. Then if added “must autonomly”, my answer, the task
must to be autonomous is not relevant to done exceept if have potention to make
holiness and wiseness perfectly. But if its was related with to make holiness
and wiseness, so god can done it better. The only thing which perfectly fit to
done by human is just to be autonomous. And its not relevant to, because those
“must autonomous” is not a thing which can make pleasure chain or danger chain
because all of it was replaced by god’s struggle, with this it is a badness if
just to “must autonomous” but sacrificing human safety and chance of human to
happy forever (world have crime and loss, and hell torture with all its level).
If any said, human task on earth is to be autonomous to get pride or respect
because was autonomous. My answer, if god is most holy, most wise, and
almighty, then for what human must go to a lot of trouble? Because if god
willing, its sure will created. Even, although human and angel relax whole
time, its still no problem which cant done because god is almighty, all task
can done by god perfectly. With this, so although human dont have pride and
respect, its still all problem will done by god. If god is most holy, most
wise, and almighty, so surely true to say although human doesnt have pride or
respect but all human need will still
fullfiled. With that, so pride or respect are not things which can make
pleasure chain or danger chain because all of it was replaced by god’s
struggle. With that, so this is badness and falseness if just for pride or
respect but sacrificing human safety and human chance to happy forever (world
have crime and loss, and hell torture with all its level). Human safety and
human chance to happy forever are bigger things and more on pleasure chain.
And if god wants its fair, so between god and human all must
have potention to become god. If then said god with his power surely can become
god, meanwhile human with its power is unable to become god, so this is unfair.
And i think the pure god can make human to become god because pure god is
almighty. And it will not have any problem with requirement that god exceept
pure god are also most holy and most wise, although pure god’s power and
another god is same. On word almighty, thing which interupting is only level
who is have best power, but this power level is not thing which important to
examined, because god exceept pure god was most holy and most wise, so its dont
have problem. This is surely easy because pure god is almighty. And as the god
its surely always happy and win, and god surely wants the best for human
because god is most holy and most wise, god will not forcing to badness because
god is most holy, no one will can prevent god to reach the best level of wisdom
because He is most holy, most wise, and almighty. No one of human needs which
need to afraid if human become god who is most holy, most wise, and the power
is same with pure god’s power.
Above all the complicated maker is god himself
because god that made that hierarchy. Its sure people who bad moral or dont
want islam because any hard reason and not simple as just dont want, example
dont want islam because very like freesex, this feeling is very teasing like
addictive, this is the dangerous from that task given. And for inner pleasure
because was been himself or helping is still unfair with all human never
tortured in hell, this like not to egoist with must feel inner pleasure after
been himself or helping then the result is all human never tortured in hell,
then this same as helping, because in the world has many dangerous, crime,
false that between them any things made addiction, or made too dependent, or
made very like, and very forcing.
23. If the Muslims want to increase the honor of
allahswt. Teach islam correctly, prioritizing evidence..struggle the interests
of those who disbelieve, their lives are tough not like guys that moslem since
birth.The honor of allahswt. In a word god all-good, god is fair is depent on
the happiness of their lives. Do not hurt them with your dirty words, with your
mind, and in every sermon many Muslims who debased the infidels in words such
as 'god please curse upon them'. Each Muslims hurt infidels the honor of
allahswt. is more lower, Perhaps only in the real history of life. unbelievers would
not immediately believe without evidence, forcing them to believe merely just
by words or your writings means mentally crime.
24. torture here means action which resulted in the
loss of such a war, misery, poverty, natural disasters that killed many people
and abandoned children, and others, the sense of torture that I have mentioned
must already have not done by god, if god did perhaps we should hostile, and do
not deserve good god almighty it's called because there was a better man, or
the meaning of the religious torture was not perfect if it did not include
those things, (whereas the meaning of torture or injustice in the Islamic
religion there is in C) (while the Quran verses about god does not do torture
or injustice exist in C), and the culprit is something in the religion as it
creates the potential of those things. With it deserves to be said that the
concept of the religion that says that god is not did injustice or torture is
wrong, because the reason in this 2a. Religion to fit the description that the
concept is wrong here is Islam,
25. my critique to other religions is, I do not
feel that other religions are for all people, because what happened to me, so I
was interested to learn about other religions besides Islam takes desire and
reason are rarely encountered (the reason for the study of other religions is
because I know a lot is because of religious wars, it's the reason that I know
from the internet , while the flow of information outside of the internet is
safe to say , that is near here), in addition to studying other religions need
money for school and buy his book (no book can not prove it true a verse, for
example), to the internet also need money, not all have the money and are
interested, so that happens to me is I have little information other than the
religion of Islam, especialy to get the correct information about the evidence
about the truth of a religion (I emphasize information that is true), and also
prove it takes desire, consciousness (not all adults on this subject), reasons,
and money and more capabilities. For example, in Christianity Jesus is said to
have made a full
dozens of people although originally there were only a basket of bread, but how
to prove it is a difficult thing. I think these things are enough to describe
how difficult it is to get a chance to learn about other religions to stock up
enough trust after proving the truth of that (if any) that is said in the
teachings of the religion god is a god who created the entire universe. Because
of the evidence that (if true) is evidence of the philosophical reasons, or
evidence which requires high technology and knowledge that is certainly not all
people (I think) may participate in conducting proof. With these things, I
conclude that the real god is not wise to force all men to believe one of their
own religion without god make enough action. If a religion is for all human
beings, then religion must be like hand for a normal human, human beings can
use all or part of a man's hands to yourself for free or without having to pay
such coercion or other sacrifices because not all the same capabilities of all
human beings. And what the evidence that creates rain, animals, and trees is
something called a god in each religion? And most of the verses in the Quran is
a simple shape such as human words so can be doubt that the claim that the
Quran is from God. And all that healing, what the evidence if who did all that
healing is jesus?
26. And, on the doctrine of these religions, the
God that said by religious books is did many miracles that delivered by each of
the book, but it's just a little thing, do not prove that one of them, the God
that said by each religious books, was something that created the entire
universe and whole life, religious books and science has not yet to prove it.
the doctrine of the religions say it is a little miracle here, and a little
miracle there, it's if the miracle is does exist, of course the universe is
more wide than sky, bread, pregnant, sea water, and bigbang theory. And that if
that things is true a wonder. We the people have not searching the entire
universe, so it is not truly true if we say that the little miracle is only God
that can actually create it.
27. simple as this. To man that the ability is
small need to be alert, especially to the creator of all potention on life and
human in its power clearly larger and in many people's lives there is great
suffering, it is enough reason to be alert and dubious concept of goodest and
concept of holy. Continue to read first. In the teachings of religions doctrine
that there is something called a god in each religion, it is the creator of the
whole universe, or at least he is the creator of the earth and all its contents
(paragraph about something called a god in the religion of Islam is the creator
of the universe or the earth and entire contents exist in C), if this is true,
then something called god it also is something that creates the potential of
destruction, crime, poverty, natural disasters kill many people, war,
suffering, and loss. With this it is worth mentioning that something called a
god in religion it is something that torture humans and animals, because
without the potential is certainly not going to happen all the losses. This man
was given such a firearm, there is use for good as the police, but there uses
to oppress other people, for example when the colonial era, the western
countries know there are many other areas of natural resources and then seek
control of the area by oppressing indigenous, this is called immature in
handling potential. What happens if god did not create the potential for
colonization? Maybe there will be no occupation. And on the side of the
colonized indigenous people, the fault is not from them, because God created
the potential for their immature and not ready for the attack from other
countries that are more advanced. What happens when God created the minds of
the west just for the good? If the concept in Islamic religion is true, then it
is not impossible, because the god in the religion of Islam was able to create
a natural angelic mind only for the better. And the promise that the mastery of
desire will be rewarded with goodness in the hereafter? Most religions promise
that when something is said god in each religion that is different, and
there is no evidence of rewards in the afterlife. And do not be rash, there are
a variety of passions that have made a variety of disasters, real examples are
acts committed Adolf Hitler with his Nazi camp, at least act Hitler killed many
civilians because of lust or passion (especially angry) or desire, or the
tragic death of the scientists such as Socrates, Galileo era or conflict when
Galilei, especially if only one true religion, it’s more less man who survived,
and it was due to the potential for the passions that the creator created in
human beings. And not all people can mature to realize it at the right time, if
there is the right way but not sure every human being can be realized, if there
is no proper road forcing the state. That's because the creator of man has
created the potential for it, this is not just a concept. And if someone says,
although there is potential for good and evil but the people who make mistakes,
my critique is, remains the main cause is God who creates the potential for
harm and evil, God also has a share. Example is who gave brains to
human? That can used to learn and process influence from outside to be an idea.
loss and crime potentions that created by god is lust or passion
(especially angry) or desire, disaster, human mind need to learn so it can be
not adult when needed, and lust is wide because all human act is start with
lust or passion (especially angry) or desire.
28. If anyone
wants to critique this my wrote with nil anything : (this is which can directly
examined)
a. God did torture and not most
holy and not allgood because creating crime potention include mutilation
potention because he is who create all being, so then mutilation can occur to human.
I ever read that most holy means holy from all bad, meanwhile wants crime is
must be a bad, and dont wants crime is must be holy. (my own think, hehe) The
essence of holy is more close to dont want any crime, meanwhile not did any
false is more close to wise. At least, God the mind is not holy because he who
first had the idea of crime, and his act is not holy to because he also has
share of crime because he who create all form and potention of crime, and that
crime potention was much used by human, (God is the creator of all crime).If
most holy means dont want any crime, meanwhile not did false is more close to
wise. So god is not most wise because was did false because have share on crime
because he is the creator of all form and potention of crime (god is the
creator of the entire universe and all its content). And that crime potention
was much used by human, god himself who made human can did crime from cant did
any crime. And i ever read the means of most wise is all he did is always right
and contain wisdom. Crime is badness and falseness, so anyone who has share on
crime, so he has share on badness and falseness. Einstein and Kalasnikov maybe
their mind is dont want crime, but their did still contain some false because
has share on made of deadly weapon which can used on crime. God is different
with Einstein and Kalasnikov, their ability is limited and very influenced by
the law of consequences, meanwhile god is almighty and all of influence and
consequences came from god.... paragraph 2 , and if god is almighty so all law
obey him, he free to change and control any law (include make that mutilation
potention gone).
b. Same question to bibel and
quran, why bibel like not guarded by god, etc. So then can concluded that god
is improper ... paragraph 12 , and maybe need to consider for make sure –
paragraph 19
c. Not yet know by sure all
actual condition in this whole universe (few telling) ... paragraph 12, and yet
we can nil all of its religion things till to its details especially to its
believe thing.
d. The dissapear of all crime
and loss is more worthy than happy felling which just from pride level which is
very small thing. Where come from all of this crime in world while god wants
good things? is god is forced so he is not almighty? Or he is almighty but not
allgood (while me who just good, wants the dissapear of all crime and loss)?
Yet god gain his almighty by directly or without process (religion concept).
This is not complicated if god is almighty (he free to change and control any
law) all law obey him ... paragraph 2, 22
e. Human task on earth is to
leading. If just to dominate and exploit the earth just for human interest
itself, so why human placed on earth? Human has got better pleasure on heaven,
pray has become useless if just for human interest itself because ever got
better on heaven. if just for human be himself and dont need to add any profit
so its not fair with the dangerous.So its cant another, human task on earth is
to lead (give benefit) to earth content exceept human, but (on realistic) human
is not the leader on earth isnit. All benefit given from human to another earth
content was defeated because human has more much of take benefit, like this, A
give 1000 money to B while B give 500000 money to A (barter), surely who will said
as gave benefit is B. and human just need to relax ... paragraf 22
f. Islam teach that god is has
not have a same to its creatures, but my answer is we have same things, which
from substantif to technical : as same as considering crime is bad. Considering
science is useful. Considering language is useful. Considering good is good.
Can did a torturing (at this point its has a same). Know a function of
television is to watch news. Know that a man cant be pregnant on normal
situation. Know that human need eating. Know that human cant fly like airplane
on normal situation. Can punish criminal with dead (if any said that just god
who gave dead, so the human that did murdering dont have any responsibility).
Know phytagorian formula. Know that god can finish all good task better. Human
is holy (dont want any crime, examples are mother Theresa and Mahatma gandi)
and god also dont want any crime (on religion concept). Using thinking system
especially on verse, etc.
g. Unfair between infidel baby
and moslem baby, because if its same or easier for live with wrong way of live
(religion) (and if islam right) since birth, so not useful to changed. Then if
any said, more heavy then gain better reward. I answer, we dont know if moslem
baby his fate is changed to become infidel baby since birth, so what he did
will better or worst than infidel baby. And also the unfair that they together
starting from zero but any is given with bigger chance(both of them is capable).If
its true the infidel baby was stronger since birth, so then god give him harder
life test but that is the bigger chance. The comparison is like this, here are
2 people A and B. A is a bachelor while B middle scholl graduate (assumed A is
an infidel baby who was stronger since birth, while B is moslem baby), at same
time they apply for job in company T. Then, ‘A’ got a job as a supervisor with
bigger salary because he capable, while ‘B’ got a job in production with salary
below the A. so this is it ‘A’ got bigger reward because he is more capable and
got bigger chance. Its yet like that between muhammad and infidel baby,
muhammad is ‘A’ and infidel baby is ‘B’.
Moreover, why
revelation from god not come in modern period, when people is smarter and
technology is greater so then most people can examine the revelation as more
detail and accurate? If any god revelation come at modern period, so we can
make note as more complete, detail, and better. Then its must easy for god that
almighty to create any miracle again on modern period then let human to examine
as more smart, complete, clear, and detail. Miracle that more clear as
determine between god power and which is not, and cant be refuted by saying
that that something is just expert to talk. Example, god make sky voice which
can heared by all human as clearly and continous so then each any human wants
to examine, so that human quickly got clearance. Technicaly, sky voice to whole
earth not yet can did by human so its clearly miracle and did continously so
each human know and clear. Why? Religion said that god wants to help human and
wants to alert outside the verse to sin human isnit?. That sky voice can
considered as better revelation than verse because clearly is miracle and
continously. Or god present himself on center of human, together with human
build clear relation, clearly present as we see flower (this is not complicated
and dangerous as religion said that mountain will become dust if near god,
because god is almighty, all law obey him), he live forever while human normaly
dead. I think thats will reduce to zero the number of human that pick wrong
religion because god can did miracle in front of human anytime, example with
pull moon to earth and let all human touch that, and will not dangerous because
god is almighty. As note, human still can fulfill his need by himself while god
present himself proporsional for make human believe. Sure if just believe
without prove so there are much another religion.
C. DESCRIPTION LIST AGAIN AND VERSE
(Most of the verses in the Quran is a simple shape
like a regular man-made so as to doubt the claim that the Quran from God). And
if someone says, interpreting the Quran should not be cut, my critique is,
whether it can be argued that Islam teaches that Allah swt is the creator of
the whole universe or just the earth and all its contents? Whether it can be
argued that Islam teaches that Allah swtdo not do injustice or torture to his
creatures? Of course it's teachings in Islam.
1. PARAGRAPH ABOUT SOMETHING CALLED IN RELIGION IS
THE CREATOR OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE OR JUST EARTH AND ALL ITS CONTENTS
@ The creator of all that exists on earth, Surah Al
Baqarah verse 29 (second letter):
He is God, who made everything on the earth for you and He
wills (created) heaven, and made him the
seven heavens ! And he is acquainted with all things.
@ God s.w.t. is the source of all things, Surah Al
Hijr verse 21:
And nothing but the one on our
side of the treasures, and we are not down but with a certain size.
Intent treasure here is the source of everything
that Allah swt
@ Q.S AsSajdah verse 4:
It is Allah Who created the heavens and the
earth and what is between them in six days, then He is seated on the
Throne. There is nothing for you other than Him a helper and a giver nor
intercession. So will you not pay attention?
@ Q.S Al Mu'min verse 62:
That is Allah, your Lord , the
Creator of all things, there is no god but He : then how can ye deluded?
@ Q.S Al An'amayat 101
He's the creator of the heavens and the earth. How
does she have a child when he did not have a wife.He created all things, and
He knows everything.
2 . MEANING OF PERSECUTION OR TORTURE OR MAYHEM IN
ISLAM
@ Pieces of http://syaunarahman.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/modul-pendidikan-agama-islam-kelas-xi-pm-1-pm-2-mm-dan-tp-4/
Mayhem (adh - Dhulm)
The word " adh - dhulm " comes from the
fi'l (verb) "dhalama - yadhlimu" means : "loss, dark,
mayhem" or for "Putting something is not in place". In this case
equivalent to the word "al - Jawr". In Indonesian, despotic commonly
referred to as "mayhem/ aniaya", meaning beyond, outrageous, or
action / behavior that goes beyond the limits that can harm themselves and
others. Persecute means torture, torture and various other forms such
oppressive tyranny, take the rights of others by force and others.
Various properties of unjust / mayhem
Basically the general injustice or persecution
actions can be classified 4 types :
a. Do wrong to God, the way God would not execute
orders and carry out the prohibitions. Example : leaving prayers , fasting ,
zakat and other religious, even doing shirk , magic and other forbidden.
b. Unjust to yourself, for example : let yourself
remain ignorant, poor, lazy, drinking, suicide and others.
c. Do wrong to others (fellow human beings), for
example : cursing, slander, steal, rob, torture, murder, and others.
d. Unjust to other creatures or natural
surroundings, for example : cutting down trees without rules , littering,
killing the animal with a blunt weapon , and others.
@ Pieces of
http://jokosiswanto77.blogspot.com/2010/06/menjauhi-sifat-sifat-hasad-riya-dan.html
Persecution attitude
Persecution is like torture or cruel act of
oppression. Persecute means to torture, abuse and various forms of tyranny as
oppressive, take away the rights of others by force and others
Above understanding can be explained that
persecution is a crime that is threatening life and property. His act is the
same as stealing, even greater, because in it there is an element of violence.
To kill the victim if it is clear that action is one of the major sins.
There are three kinds of injustice, namely :
1. Wrongdoers to Allah, the apostate ( kufr )
against Allah. For example, claimed faith but a hypocrite or apostate
2. Unjust to ourselves, which do iniquity or commit
immoral deeds and sins on yourself. For example adultery, drinking intoxicants,
leaving the prayer, lazy learning, and not thanks all the blessings of Allah
swt
3. Despotic towards fellow beings, like harm
others, damaging plants (environment), and torturing animals.
@ Pieces of
http://ristihusni.blogspot.com/2012/02/pengertian-riya-aniaya-dan-diskriminasi.html
Despotic or Persecution
The word comes from the Arabic wrongdoers, from the
ضلم - يضلم which means dark, persecution, loss, or placing
something is not in place.
Meanwhile, according to the terms unjust acts that
are beyond the limits of the life, property or honor of others and opposed to
the truth.
3. VERSES OF GOD S.W.T did not persecute or mayhem
or torture
@ Q.S Huud paragraph 100-101
Verse
100 : it is the party of foreign news (which was destroyed) that we tell thee
(Muhammad) among these countries there are still caught the marks and there
(anyway) that had been destroyed.
Verse
101 :And We are not persecute them, but they who persecute themselves,
because it is useful Nor iota to their gods - gods they invoke besides Allah,
in time to come your god doom. And gods - gods that are not adding to them
except sheer destruction.
D. NOTE AND SOURCE ASMAUL HUSNA
I ever read that most holy means holy from all bad,
meanwhile wants crime is must be a bad, and dont wants crime is must be holy. (my
own think, hehe) The essence of holy is more close to dont want any crime,
meanwhile not did any false is more close to wise. At least, God the mind is
not holy because he who first had the idea of crime, and his act is not holy to
because he also has share of crime because he who create all form and potention
of crime, and that crime potention was much used by human, (God is the creator
of all crime).If most holy means dont want any crime, meanwhile not did false
is more close to wise. So god is not most wise because was did false because
have share on crime because he is the creator of all form and potention of
crime (god is the creator of the entire universe and all its content). And that
crime potention was much used by human, god himself who made human can did
crime from cant did any crime. And i ever read the means of most wise is all he
did is always right and contain wisdom.
Crime is badness and falseness, so anyone who has
share on crime, so he has share on badness and falseness. Einstein and
Kalasnikov maybe their mind is dont want crime, but their did still contain
some false because has share on made of deadly weapon which can used on crime.
God is different with Einstein and Kalasnikov, their ability is limited and
very influenced by the law of consequences, meanwhile god is almighty and all
of influence and consequences came from god. If he by aware was included in
assisting the crime to happen, so he by aware was included in assisting badness
and falseness to happen, so he was did badness and falseness.
Then if any said, God create crime with any
function, that is for us to know goodness. My answer, this is said about
another thing, not most holy still applied. And, if God is almighty, so all is
good still can be created, not complicated like must crime to exist which is
more risky.
Things i
can refute by this wrote is under. Sory, the source of state of personality and
its meaning is in Indonesian: Quantum Asmaul Husna by Rachmat Ramadhana
Al-banjari
1. Al-quddus
(most holy). Holy from all bad or imperfection.
2. Mukhalafah
lil hawadits. Has not same with its creature.
3. Al-malik
(most owner). The king or owner, absolute owner of whole universe, real and
spiritual. Willing > surely happen, not willing > not ever happen.
4. Al-jabbar.
Most forcing
5. Al-adl
(most fair) placing all thing proportional, (on my wrote, the proportion is all
his creatures have same rights, back to the meaning of fair). Will not erase
even one of the right of his creatures. No one creatures is lossing by him. (on
my wrote, human have rights since have feeling).
6. Al-haq
(most righteous). Everything come from allah is right and surely being.
7. Al-qadir
(most owner). Most able to do everything he want and cant be beaten.
8. Al-muqtadir
(most controlling of choosing). Have mighty by wholy without limit. Most
controling all thing as his will.
9. Torturing.
Par 2
10.
Few telling. Par 12
11.
Even relax but no problem. Par 22
12.
Moreover why revelation not come on
modern age. Par 28
The Universe is Constant not extended. Cant Back to Past Even
God, God not almighty http://wrotefromrdjorharmikel.blogspot.co.id/2017/08/the-universe-is-constant-not-extended.html
2. god did torturing and not most holy because crime potention he made... paragraph 2
3. unfair between moslem since birth, infidel since birth, and muhammad... paragraph 5
4. seven layer of sky and other is very small than the whole universe and can be just devil misleading after devil know some, but only on believe thing...paragraph 12
5. if normal, self function working good, and life test never too hard so no one of human will failed ... paragraph 19-21
6. god can finish that with better. human is not the leader on earth ...paragraph 22
7. torture meaning ... paragraph 24
8. god also has a share on crime and torturing because he is the creator of all being include potention ... paragraph 27